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Post by GreyApothecary on Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:33 pm

do you think the current modern world would be capable of surviving a zombie invasion?
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Post by KrAzY on Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:59 pm

I think that unless the infection spread by ways other than bite... then the "invasion" would be limited to 1 city or less.


our society has zombies engranded so much into popular culture... we know how to deal with it if it were to happen
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Post by Death no More on Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:30 pm

KrAzY wrote:I think that unless the infection spread by ways other than bite... then the "invasion" would be limited to 1 city or less.


our society has zombies engranded so much into popular culture... we know how to deal with it if it were to happen
What if it was a more dangerous infection, like L4D or Dead space type zombies? We could handle L4D zombies since you don't have to cut off their damn limbs.
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Post by KrAzY on Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:47 pm

cutting off limbs is unnessicary when you can drop a MOAB or nuke into the originally infected city and kill all of them
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Post by Vigil on Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:04 pm

As for necromorphs, they can be killed with a rotary sawblade.

Though the mode of transmission is rather preculiar.

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Post by laxspartan007 on Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:10 pm

sever or destroy the brain...and yes, AMERICA! FUCK YAH!!!


but if the virus started in a 3rd world country or tribal area where everyone and everything was infected for months befor civilization heard of it, than me may have a problem, esspecually if other animals/insects/organisms can transfer it...
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:30 pm

The problem with the zombie virus is that it's so engrained into pop culture, no one takes it serious.

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Post by laxspartan007 on Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:02 pm

untill people start dieing...
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:30 pm

It'll get written off as something else. People will do anything to maintain their delicate beliefs, and a zombie apocalypse is just not in most people's beliefs.

I'd note that starting location doesn't matter. Each location has its own benefit. If it's start somewhere third-world or tribal, it will have time to build up without being noticed, but if it starts in a high-population area, it will spread too quickly to be properly contained.

You see, what makes the zombie virus so deadly is that it doesn't just spread by bite. It spreads by any sort of fluid exchange. Zombie blood would be extremely contagious. A drop in your eye, your mouth, or in an open cut, and you've been infected.

Further, the incubation period makes it particularly deadly because people will convince themselves that they aren't infected and strive to break quarantine. It's one thing to contain zombies, but to contain intelligent, desperate humans who are infected is another thing entirely. Without immediate and indiscriminate response, quarantine would never stand up.

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Post by KrAzY on Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:34 pm

Madagascar would be fine. They always close down their ports the moment someone coughs 10 countries away
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Post by Divine Virus on Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:41 pm

Have you guys ever read World War Z? I'm only about 1/4 of the way through it right now, but its a damn good book.

It put's a realistic view at how a Zombie Apocalypse would play out in not even today's day & age but I think a while back.

Anyways, here is an article I wanted to post on here. Thought maybe you guys could discuss it and the points it brings up.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html
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Post by BBJynne on Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:31 pm

KrAzY wrote:Madagascar would be fine. They always close down their ports the moment someone coughs 10 countries away

SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.

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Post by Zaki90 on Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:12 am

What about India.

Crummy slums, literally billions of poor, unarmed Indians, weak military force, and the complete lack of hygiene. Not to mention a poor health system and an even worse crime issues.

Not to mention the labor force that India practically exports. Arab countries that require millions of underpaid and homeless that are shipped from India in ships with terrible conditions.

Arab countries without Indians means a collapse in the social structure, which is basically a halt in all labor jobs, causing huge issues in the groundwork. Social services will break down quickly and food, water, and oil that are normally regulated by the millions of them working in shops and gas stations will be without work. Indians make some like 76 percent of the population (Effectively 76% percent of the workforce). Which will cause oil prices to skyrocket.

The millions of oil expats will leave, and perhaps carry the disease. The majority of them being American and British, bringing the disease to more urban populace centers.

But without oil, mobilizing the military becomes costly, and thus substantial efforts of containment because difficult. That, under a lot more detailed circumstances like time of year could issue some scenarios that a Invasion might occur.

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Post by laxspartan007 on Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:41 pm

i think we should list countries that we think would survive a worst case senario...

Switzerland...Madagascar...Iceland...the end of list... Razz

Switzerland because every male Citizen must join the military at the age of 18, and if you wish to become a citizen you must join the military, and after the military they are allowed to keep their issued rifle...a fully armed milita that might be stronger than the accual militay...Zombies beware
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Post by Gold Spartan on Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:44 pm

...why is that necessary in a nation that doesn't fight?
And Zombies wouldn't be the first massed force to attack Finland. Razz
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:39 pm

Switzerland guaruntees its neutrality by having the largest militia ever.

Also, zombies can't be demoralized, and won't march in file. However, I'd wager that many northern countries with extremely cold climates, such as Finland, will be just fine. Zombies don't know anything about protecting against exposure.

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Post by TNine on Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:36 pm

laxspartan007 wrote:i think we should list countries that we think would survive a worst case senario...

Switzerland...Madagascar...Iceland...the end of list... Razz

Switzerland because every male Citizen must join the military at the age of 18, and if you wish to become a citizen you must join the military, and after the military they are allowed to keep their issued rifle...a fully armed milita that might be stronger than the accual militay...Zombies beware
Afghanistan and Russia could also be added.

Russia because it is huge frozen wasteland. The Zombies will be killed, but the humans trying to stay there might be too.

Afghanistan because it's fucking Afghanistan. Nobody has ever been able to take over Afghanistan.
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Post by Gold Spartan on Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:39 pm

TNine wrote:
laxspartan007 wrote:i think we should list countries that we think would survive a worst case senario...

Switzerland...Madagascar...Iceland...the end of list... Razz

Switzerland because every male Citizen must join the military at the age of 18, and if you wish to become a citizen you must join the military, and after the military they are allowed to keep their issued rifle...a fully armed milita that might be stronger than the accual militay...Zombies beware
Afghanistan and Russia could also be added.

Russia because it is huge frozen wasteland. The Zombies will be killed, but the humans trying to stay there might be too.

Afghanistan because it's fucking Afghanistan. Nobody has ever been able to take over Afghanistan.
Except the Soviets, Alexander, the Persians, the Parthians, the Selucids....
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Post by TNine on Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:49 pm

I'm don't think Zombies freezing will be as much of a deterrant as you think. Zombies are still moving, and still creating heat. They will probably suffer from some serious frostbite and will die off much quicker, but they will have to drop below freezing all over before they will actually freeze solid, and there is no saying how cold they will have to get before dying naturally.
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Post by Dud Doodoo on Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:38 pm

I think if we are to seriously consider a zombie invasion, we must be realistic about its details. We would be dealing with a living human here, not some reanimated bullshit that defies laws of biology. A zombie would be a living human whose body would be prone to failure just like ours. In order to keep a zombie moving for any extended period of time, almost all organs in the body must keep functioning to sustain muscular activity. These organs would have long failed by before the zombie froze solid even if it was constantly moving.

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Post by TNine on Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:49 pm

Dud Doodoo wrote:I think if we are to seriously consider a zombie invasion, we must be realistic about its details. We would be dealing with a living human here, not some reanimated bullshit that defies laws of biology. A zombie would be a living human whose body would be prone to failure just like ours. In order to keep a zombie moving for any extended period of time, almost all organs in the body must keep functioning to sustain muscular activity. These organs would have long failed by before the zombie froze solid even if it was constantly moving.
Which organs? The stomach? The pancreas? The small intestine? The kidneys? All of those will cause eventual failure in a human being, but a zombie only needs a respiratory system, a neurological system, and a liver (and only a partially functioning one to keep the hormones level and release glucogon). Almost all of those are kept in the center of the body or the head, which take a very long time to freeze over.

Also, wouldn't it be possible for the virus to destroy any sicknesses that enter the body, and poison maggots and the like? That would at least slow down some of the forms of decomposition.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:50 pm

Going into the freezing cold without proper protection would result in complete organ failure, likely in minutes. Zombies don't know to keep warm, and even moving quickly would not prevent the body from shutting down. Only zombies infected while wearing heavy winter clothing would even stand a chance of making the trek. Add that much of the cold north is low population and isolated, meaning zombies would have to make long treks between population centers in the bitter cold with little or no protection. The cold north will be safe from zombies, but presents many other difficulties, because it likely relies on the warmer regions for food and the like.

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Post by TNine on Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:55 pm

I'm just going on a "being wrong" streak, aren't i?
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Post by KristallNacht on Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:11 pm

most any military installation would be fine.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:18 pm

I think that, in today's world with today's hygiene and today's communications, a Zombie virus isn't going to get nearly as far as SARS did. Biting is a very slow way to transmit a disease, the infectees are extremely easy to see, assault rifles are easy to get, and Zaki is (auch immer) forgetting all the barriers standing in the way of his apocalyptic visions. Namely, nuclear power, petroleum reserves, the National Guard, cell phones, and the fact that no nation on Earth would willingly let its petrol sources become endangered.

Divine Virus wrote:Have you guys ever read World War Z? I'm only about 1/4 of the way through it right now, but its a damn good book.

It put's a realistic view at how a Zombie Apocalypse would play out in not even today's day & age but I think a while back.
Hardly realistic, in my opinion. The whole catastrophe relies on every single officer in the American military to have his IQ drop to the mid twenties, and it pulls out the tired "Fire doesn't hurt Zombies" argument. I'm sorry, but the reason we don't see serious burns is because our natural instinct is to flinch away from fire and put ourselves out. Unless your zombies are doing that, third degree burns are going to result, and those are going to slow them down... a lot.

As for Napalm... Screw you, Max, but that stuff will literally strip the flesh and muscle off the zombies.
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