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Which of the two candidates do you favor (or hate least)?

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Angatar on Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:18 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:
You seem to be confused (read stupid). I was conceding to cut off those months because it didn't matter.
Oh, I'm sorry for reading your comment as sarcasm. We all know how well sarcasm is or isn't displayed over text.

Always so angry, Rot.

Rotaretilbo wrote:Obama sure did a wonderful job with his super majority curbing that unemployment spike. Oh wait...it persisted all the way through the super majority. Imagine that.
The point was it was better than Bush. I did not say it was good.


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Except that we see increases and decreases of .2% regularly throughout a stable level of unemployment. There isn't a consistent abnormal spike in unemployment until October 2008.
Okay, where were the decreases between April 2008 and January 2009? Unemployment was on the rise that entire time, and after. 6 of those 9 months had jumps higher than .2%, 8 of 9 had .2% increase. That is consistent.

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Nocbl2 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:38 pm

I still don't see how Romney will fix in 4 years what Obama couldn't. If anything, he'll keep it all the same and it will just shake itself out.
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Re: Presidential Race

Post by KristallNacht on Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:00 pm

so why not Gary Johnson?
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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Nocbl2 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:03 pm

KristallNacht wrote:so why not Gary Johnson?
Exactly.
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Re: Presidential Race

Post by KrAzY on Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:04 pm

just early-voted

Gary Johnson
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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Toaster on Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:33 pm

rot wrote:The point is that Bush was lambasted very violently by the entirety of our media, barring the conservative FOX, for accumulating 5 trillion in debt over 8 years. Obama managed to do the same in 4 years. Probably something to do with cutting taxes and increasing government spending...

I think the point that most Obama people would make is that a very large portion of the deficit accumulated under Obama came as a result of Bush-era policies that Obama didn't have enough political clout / support to get overturned. The Bush tax cuts and Prescription Medicare (and two unfunded wars which Obama had to clean up after).

I don't love Obama. I don't agree with his politics, I don't think he's a particularly good leader, and he doubled down on the constitutional recklessness of the Bush administration. I think Obama is himself a more intelligent and thoughtful person than Romney, and based on the non-existence of Romney's tax plan, I think Obama would likely do a better job at securing some degree of stability (and very, very, very, slow, temporary progress) for the next 4 years... but that's about it. He's nothing exceptional, but I think he is the better choice (of the two).

I don't care that Romney is ultra-wealthy, and I'm INCREDIBLY TIRED of hearing about abortion and gay rights (I can't even think of two issues that I care less about).

I live in Ohio. Right now, some polls are putting Romney ahead by a single percentage point. Regardless, I think I'll be voting for good ol' Gary. I don't like Romney, but I don't really think Obama deserves it either. At least I'll always be able to say "If the majority of people voted like me, the country would be in much better shape."


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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Gauz on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:04 pm

I'm going to vote just so that I can help make sure romney doesn't win. In the event he does win then I can say I tried and bitch like everyone else inevitably will.

I wonder when the antichrist is gonna run for president already..
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Re: Presidential Race

Post by KristallNacht on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:50 pm

so you're voting for Gary Johnson?
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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Rotaretilbo on Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:04 am

I don't intend to vote at all. The presidential elections are a farce anyway. No matter who wins tomorrow, we lose.

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:37 am

KristallNacht wrote:so you're voting for Gary Johnson?
I did.
Got my mail-in ballot filled out, will drop off tomorrow.

Might upgrade to voting from the rooftops someday. Doubt it.
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Re: Presidential Race

Post by CivBase on Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:46 pm

Seems Obama has won. Hopefully he does much better in his second term.

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Lord Pheonix on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:34 pm

Watched Fox new's coverage after Obama was crowned the winner to see what they had to say about it.


One of the correspondents said "You have to give it up to Romney for running a clean campaign" and I literally laughed out loud.

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Vigil on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:55 am

CivBase wrote:Seems Obama has won. Hopefully he does much better in his second term.

Given that it looks like the Republicans still have the House of Representatives, I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by A_Bearded_Swede on Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:45 am

I'm just happy Romney and Ryan aren't in office. Too bad congress won't get anything done and make Obama look bad...

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by KristallNacht on Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:51 am

or maybe the world will end. At least we'll know for sure.
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Re: Presidential Race

Post by CivBase on Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:39 am

Vigil wrote:
CivBase wrote:Seems Obama has won. Hopefully he does much better in his second term.

Given that it looks like the Republicans still have the House of Representatives, I wouldn't hold my breath.
I don't care what party it is, a super majority is never good.

Besides, Democrats still own the senate and the oval office. I had no sympathy for Bush when Democrats held the senate and I have no sympathy for Obama right now. Part of being president is bringing individuals with different ideals together for a common good. This is what gives the president power in legislation (aside from veto, of course).

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:14 pm

NUUU! I wanted Gary Johnson to win.

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Rotaretilbo on Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:53 pm

Vigil wrote:Given that it looks like the Republicans still have the House of Representatives, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Meh. When he had the super majority was probably one of the markedly worst periods of his term.

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Lord Pheonix on Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:46 pm

Wooo!


4 more years till the exact same shit happens again!

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by CivBase on Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:03 am

Except there will be no incumbent, so the candidate selection will be TWICE as messy.

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Elabajaba on Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:39 pm

For those wondering why congress and the white house didn't call the attacks on the US embassy in Libya a terrorist attack, they were asked not to by the CIA. The Republicans knew this even as they used it to attack Obama.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/world/africa/benghazi-not-petraeus-affair-is-focus-at-hearings.html?_r=0

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Re: Presidential Race

Post by Rotaretilbo on Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:57 pm

The CIA asked the Obama administration to blame the attacks on Youtube even after the DoD was like "it was a terrorist attack"?

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